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Catherine de Sade, mistress of a very interesting site, joins me, Nina Hartley, for lesson 89: all women are pornstars, in our minds! Catherine is quite the deviant. She loves it rough, and degrading, and forceful... so that's how I gave it to her! My fans were very curious about the freaky things she does with her man, and I was curious what it would feel like to make her cum with my toys!